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While the market is down, it’s clearly not out (all together).
Someone who might have been in the market to buy an oceanfront home for $30, $40 or $50 million might see it as a wise investment to rent for the summer and buy later..
And, if there’s any two agents that are going to be involved in that deal, it’s Beate and Susan…two of the best! Nice going girls! Also, kudos to the Ex-Mrs Corzine for a terrific investment.
An oceanfront home in Sagaponack belonging to the ex-wife of New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine recently rented for $900,000, real estate sources say.
Susan Breitenbach of The Corcoran Group brought the renter, says a spokeswoman for the agent. She declined to identify the customer’s identity, but did say that it might be a record-setting price for a seasonal rental in the Hamptons. Beate Moore of Sotheby’s International Realty, the listing agent for the property, agrees. “It is a big number,” she says.
The lease is for Memorial Day to October.
The 6,200-square-foot, six-bedroom, 5.5-bath home is on a gated property. The 6.64-acre estate includes a heated gunite pool, a Har-tru tennis court and more than 500 feet of ocean frontage along Gibson Beach.
The house was signed over to Joanne Corzine in 2002 as part of her divorce settlement from Gov. Corzine.
REAL LI Blog – Newsday.com
My dear friend, Judiann teaches Landscape Design to area students at Bridgehampton High School. She is bringing The Edible Schoolyard concept developed by Alice Waters at Martin Luther King, Jr. Middle School in Berkeley, CA to BHHS. “Using food systems as a unifying concept, students learn how to grow, harvest and prepare nutritious seasonal produce. Experiences in the kitchen and garden foster a better understanding of how the natural world sustains us, and promote the environmental and social well being of our school community.” Great stuff, eh?
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- Judiann Carmack-Fayyaz
Edible Schoolyard Proposed At Bridgehampton
Posted on 11 September 2008 – Katnryn Menu, The Sag Harbor Express
“More than a decade ago, chef Alice Waters founded the Edible Schoolyard in Berkeley, California sparking a national culinary movement to bring the production of food back in time from the fast, cheap and processed fare of the 1980s and ‘90s to organic methods of cultivation almost abandoned in the fast food age, resulting in healthier foods higher in protein and vitamins.
And now Judiann Carmack-Fayyaz wants to execute the same concept in Bridgehampton.
During a Bridgehampton Union Free School District Board of Education meeting on Monday, September 8, Carmack-Fayyaz presented to the board the concept of creating an Edible Schoolyard at Bridgehampton as a way to further the landscape and environmental design course she leads at the school.
The class would seek to create a garden at the school using the principles of organic and sustainable farming, which Carmack-Fayyaz noted could involve a number of educational disciplines in its execution. She envisions the garden — which she said could be similar to programs developed at the Hayground School and at Sag Harbor Elementary School — ultimately being used by the whole school to promote healthy eating habits and possibly even supply the school’s meal program with fresh fruits and vegetables.
The garden would be designed by the landscape design class with a kitchen garden and greenhouse planned behind the administration and middle school buildings at Bridgehampton, according to a handout provided by Carmack-Fayyaz. At this point, she was simply seeking board approval to move forward with the concept, so students can begin drawing up plans for the project and fundraising. She said it will be the landscape and environmental design class’s main project of the school year.
“Can you grow some herbs for our café,” asked school board vice president Elizabeth Kotz.
The board said they were indeed interested in the idea. “
Spec builders grow cautious in Hamptons
Hamptons developers turn to pre-construction marketing to mitigate expenses
A six-bedroom spec home on 1.5 acres at 493 Parsonage Lane in Sagaponack is still on the market, but builder Joe Farrell said he rented it for $600,000 for the summer.
By Julia Dahl
Speculative building is a risky endeavor almost anywhere. From the initial land purchase to the process of obtaining permits, hiring an architect and overseeing construction, building a home before you have a buyer is not for the faint of heart. In tony spots, like the East End of Long Island, where the price of land has gone up seven-fold in the past 10 years, it can be an even bigger risk.
And a year after the subprime mortgage crisis, it can be downright dangerous.
“I can’t imagine why anyone would go into speculative building right now,” said Walter Molony of the National Association of Realtors.
Nationwide, building is down. Though spec building isn’t broken out from the stats, new housing starts dipped 27 percent from 2007, which was itself a drop of 24 percent from 2006.
However, Michael Davis, a longtime developer of high-end properties in the Hamptons, argued that, “the Hamptons is unique.” Davis, who has already sold one spec home in Southampton this year for $5.9 million, has two others in the works. “If you’re in the right location in the Hamptons,” he said, “demand exceeds supply, even now.”
Still, market watchers are aware that even the Hamptons have not been completely immune to the fluctuations of the national market. In Southampton, for example, the number of new dwelling permits issued so far this year is just over a third of what it was in 2005. Between January and June 2008, the town handed out 62 permits — down from 88 last year, 130 in 2006, and 175 in 2005.
According to Michael Daly, a broker with RE/MAX Beach Properties who also blogs about Hamptons real estate, a select group of developers and builders (including Michael Davis) have been betting on the Hamptons market for decades — and though they may be adjusting their expectations, they certainly aren’t packing it in. Instead, said Daly, some speculative builders have begun marketing their new homes pre-construction, thereby reducing the, well, speculation.
“More and more builders are putting out their products with sophisticated renderings and floorplans, seeking to gauge the level of interest before they start building,” Daly said.
He estimates that there are about one-third fewer “new construction” homes currently on the market in the Hamptons than there were last year. Of those approximately 135 homes, Daly said that about one-third are being offered “pre-construction.” He said that pool of inventory includes 60 percent of the homes on the market with asking prices above $10 million and 42 percent of the homes currently listed between $2 million and $5 million.
In Bridgehampton, for example, one 6,000-square-foot oceanfront property is listed for $22.9 million “total turnkey,” or alternatively for $15.9 million “as is with plans and permits.” In Quogue, a 9,600-square-foot bayfront property with a wine cellar, gym and tennis court on 4.1 acres is being offered pre-construction for $15.5 million.
“Builders are trying to mitigate a bit of their exposure,” said Daly, who points to 35 homes in the area that have been built but not sold.
Bernard Markstein, senior economist and director of forecasting for the National Association of Home Builders, said “mom-and-pop speculators, the people who got in during the housing boom, have largely shaken out or are licking their wounds trying to figure out what to do with their property. The long-term players, on the other hand, are simply trying not to overextend themselves.”
Custom homebuilder Joe Farrell is one of those long-term players. Farrell, who Daly called “one of the most successful builders in the Hamptons,” said he’s sold eight speculative homes in various stages of pre-construction, at prices ranging from $2.1 million to $18 million, in the last six months.
“One house [is] sitting a little longer than usual, but we ended up renting it for $600,000 for the summer,” Farrell said.
Still, he does admit to being a bit more cautious in the new market. “I’m only buying land if I can get a great deal,” said Farrell.
For his part, Davis said that about one-third of his current business is speculative construction and that the volume of spec homes he’s working on hasn’t changed much in the past year.
“Last year when subprime hit, it sounded as if the real estate market as a whole was going down the tubes,” said Davis. “But I think it’s unfortunate that the press tends to generalize.”
Don Sharkey, the chief building inspector for the town of East Hampton, said building permits overall are “definitely down about 10 percent.” But, he notes, they don’t have data isolating new construction.
Meanwhile, Don Louchheim, the mayor of the Village of Sagaponack, told The Real Deal that the village is currently considering four subdivision proposals, representing about 100 acres total.
The right location, said agents and builders, is key, as are views.
Jeffrey Colle, who has been building and restoring high-end homes in the Hamptons for 30 years, said he is “absolutely as busy” as he was two years ago.
Colle is currently at work on a $40 million spec home in East Hampton, on which he is sparing no expense — from 18th-century fireplaces to bathtubs carved in Italy. The 12,000-square-foot home on Georgica Pond abuts a meadow reserve and will boast an infinity pool, six bedrooms, seven fireplaces and “sunsets that’ll knock your eyes out,” he said.
Colle said he’s already had brokers from Sotheby’s come by, as well as potential buyers from as far away as California and Australia. “I’ve been out here 30 years, and I’ve never seen the top of the market go down,” said Colle.
And that’s good news for other high-end developers like Robert Gianos, who has spent several years preparing to construct a Southampton subdivision that some have dubbed “Billionaire’s Corner.” Nothing like your typical suburban tract home, Gianos’ Olde Towne is reportedly inspired by the look of the village from when it was originally settled in the 1640s. Lots are reportedly priced at between $18 and $22 million.
“He’s building for untouchables,” said Daly, who reasons that since Gianos’ potential buyer won’t care what the price of gas is, the developer needn’t fret over market fluctuations either.
There’s all sorts of nifty new fact and figures coming out about sub-prime. Here’s a map from Newsday showing the percentage of mortgages for 2006 that were sub-prime loans.
Presumably, that will give an indication as to how many foreclosures might be in these community’s future? Looks like the East End has a much lower overall percentage than our sister markets to the west. see map here
Ok everybody, here we go again with the MEDIAN price figure.
Raise your hands: How many of you REALLY know what MEDIAN price means and CAN EXPLAIN IT!?!? Median is like a Metric figure to me. Like: “What, you want me to walk two kilometers?” or, “WOW! that was a matter of centimeters!!!” Sorry, it’s pretty meaningless to me…for a definition of “median”,try this
Would it make it any better or worse to know that the AVERAGE price of Hamptons Real Estate is now over $1.6 Million? Impressed? Depressed?
for more info: http://www.suffolkresearch.com/quarterlycharts.htm
By CHRISTINA S.N. LEWIS, The Wall Street Journal
July 20, 2007; Page W8
Eight Hamptons Lots
New York attorney and real-estate investor Alan Schnurman has just gotten approval to sell eight lots in a Hamptons subdivision, 41 acres in all, for $64.5 million — about 2½ times what he paid two years ago.
In 2005, the 62-year-old personal-injury lawyer paid $25 million for the farmland, in Sagaponack about a quarter-mile from the ocean. Authorities approved the division last month, says co-listing agent Neil Bersin of Prudential Douglas Elliman. The lots lie just west of one of the largest homes in the country, the 100,000-square-foot mansion owned by investor Ira Rennert.
In May, Mr. Schnurman sold six lots on 26 acres in Bridgehampton to a real-estate developer for the $37.5 million asking price. He’d paid $12 million in 2005, he says. That buyer is now trying to sell the lots for nearly $50 million.
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I don’t care what time of year or how many people are here or how many homes have been built…this is one of the most beautiful places on earth.
Some people just like to bitch and complain. Listen to this one:
“There’s too many cars on the road, too many people who don’t know how to drive, and the feeling here is, ‘Wouldn’t it be lovely to keep some of them away?’” the editor of the East Hampton Star, David Rattray, said in an interview yesterday.
And this:“The traffic is beyond disgusting,” the co-owner of Vered Gallery in East Hampton, Janet Lehr, said. “We see our clients from Southampton to Westhampton and Quogue in the winter, but they just don’t come during the summer months, and I don’t blame them.”
This is the Hamptons, ladies and gentlemen. – love it or leave it!
Hampton Mulls Its Own Taxes On Congestion
The New York Sun
By ANNIE KARNI
Staff Reporter of the Sun
July 24, 2007
Sagaponack / Wainscott border, April 2007
Mother Nature showed us both how powerful She is and how much She loves us during this weekend’s Nor’easter here in the Hamptons.
Many trees were downed and the ocean boiled and roared. But after hearing warnings of a storm approaching that would be equal to or harsher than the 1992 storm that took over 100 houses in Westhampton and seriously eroded beaches along the entire south fork coast, we remained relatively unscathed, albiet quite impressed.
Water came over the dunes at Main Beach in East Hampton and the popular parking lot was closed today, as the village crews pushed the sand back onto the beach.
The photo above was the most serious erosion I saw as I drove from beach to beach along East Hampton, Wainscott, Sagaponack, Bridgehampton, Water Mill and Southampton.
I passed actor Roy Scheider as he picked up small pieces of windswept debris around his oceanfront property off Gibson Lane in Sagaponack, clearly relieved that his property, which is reportedly on the market for sale, was intact.
Another clients home on Gin Lane remained secure and the dunes stood strong, but the beach up to the dunes was swept away during the storm. md
Westhampton (now the village of Westhampton Dunes), 1992
“Townline BBQ, the barbecue joint now being constructed in the Sagaponack location that was formerly Allison by the Beach (3593 Townline Road). The space is owned by Mark Smith and Honest Management Company, who operate the massively successful Nick & Toni’s, as well as Rowdy Hall, La Fondita and Villa Italian Specialties. Pitmaster/chef at Townline will be Joe Realmuto. ” eater -more here
